Alcoholics Anonymous History: June 2013

Sunday, June 30, 2013

Hear the Real Story of Bill W.'s Youth - by Dick B. in a five series of audio talks

How Bill W.’s A.A. Story Really Began

Dick B. Presents Part Three of His A.A. History Audio Series

http://dickb.com/audio-talks3.shtml

Dick B.

There are five audio talks by Dick B. in this series. They tell you the real Bill Wilson Story in terms of his childhood, Bible study, Christian upbringing, church and Sunday school attendance, and years at Burr and Burton Seminary in Manchester, Vermont.

Ultimately, they amplify the material in Dick’s The Conversion of Bill W. www.dickb.com/conversion.shtml.

But these five talks will tell you things about Bill Wilson’s Christian upbringing in the State of Vermont that fly in the face of years of distortion about Bill, his church, his Sunday school, the East Dorset Congregational Church to which Bill, his parents, and his grandparents (both the Griffiths and the Wilsons) belonged. The talks will tell you how he studied the Bible as a youngster. They will tell you about the church’s confession and creeds. They will tell you about the Wilson family’s founding and holding office in the little church. They will tell of the Scripture reading, sermons, prayers, and hymns he heard in the little East Dorset Christian church and its Sunday school. How do we know? We know because we were given the special privilege of going inside the church, seeing Pew 15 which the Wilsons owned, and reviewing the church records with its archivist and treasurer—whose family had long been connected with the church. The little church—seldom if ever visited by AAs—lies on the green between the Griffith House (home of Bill’s maternal grandparents) on one side, and the Wilson House (home of Bill’s paternal grandparents) on the other side.

Onward and upward. Bill was enrolled in the Burr and Burton Seminary a few miles away and located in Manchester, Vermont. There he took a four year Bible study course. He attended daily chapel where he heard sermons, Scripture reading, hymns, and prayers. Like all the scholars at Burr and Burton, Bill attended many services and events at the nearby Manchester Congregational Church—which had close ties to the Congregational influenced academy. Bill also became president of the school Young Men’s Christian Association; and his girl-friend Bertha Bamford became president of the school Young Women’s Christian Association. The two of them attended many “Y” activities hand-in-hand.

There is much more about Bill’s Christian upbringing. He remembered conversion meetings, temperance meetings, and revivals. His friend Ebby Thacher attended Burr and Burton at the same time Bill was there; and Ebby lived with the pastor of the Manchester Congregational Church and also remembered the Christian upbringing he had had in a family which had five generations of clergy in its lineage.

Surprise. Surprise. Bill and Ebby then went on to attend the military academy at Northfield, Vermont. And there too, chapel was held, church attendance was required. And the Christian training continued until Bill entered the Army in World War I.

The interesting thing about Bill’s Christian upbringing is that it was really quite similar to that received by Dr. Bob in St. Johnsbury, Vermont. There, Dr. Bob and his entire family belonged to and attended the North Congregational Church of St. Johnsbury; and we have established the Dr. Bob Core Library there which contains thousands of books and papers about the Smith family’s connection with the church, with prayer meetings, with the YMCA, with St. Johnsbury Academy, and with the Christian training his highly educated parents gave him in that village.

Also, Dr. Bob was active in the Young People’s Society of Christian Endeavor which had a program for young people that featured many of the Christian elements that found their way into early A.A. in Akron. The Dr. Bob story can be found in Dr. Bob of Alcoholics Anonymous, www/dickb.com/drbobofaa.shtml.

Be sure to listen to Dick B.’s presentation of the real Bill Wilson story which includes material about Wilson’s religious background and Christian training that most historians, authors, and AAs have probably never heard and certainly have not recounted.

Listen to Dick B. tell the details on http://dickb.com/audio-talks3.shtml

dickb@dickb.com

Thursday, June 27, 2013

A.A. Cofounder Bill W.'s Four-Year Bible Study Course While Attending Burr and Burton Seminary

Frederica Templeton, archivist of Burr and Burton Academy (known as "Burr and Burton Seminary" when Bill W. attended from 1909 to 1913) and author of the official history of Burr and Burton Academy ["The Castle in the Pasture: Portrait of Burr and Burton Academy (Manchester, Vermont: Burr and Burton Academy, 2005)], told Dick B. and me during our research trip to Vermont in June 2008 that Bill Wilson had taken a required, four-year Bible study course at Burr and Burton Seminary.

Ken B.

Sunday, June 23, 2013

On Radio, Dick B.: "The First Step in Recovery Revival Is to the Bible"

Dick B. discusses his forthcoming title, "Recovery Revival: Early A.A.'s 'First Century Christianity' in Recovery Today" (Part 2), on the June 23, 2013, episode of the "Christian Recovery Radio with Dick B." show

Dick B.

You may hear this program now on

www.ChristianRecoveryRadio.com

______________________________________________________________

You may hear Dick B.'s second presentation on his forthcoming title, Recovery Revival, on the June 23, 2013, episode of the "Christian Recovery Radio with Dick B." show here:

http://tobtr.com/s/5029423

or here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/christian-recovery-radio-with-dickb/2013/06/23/dick-b-discusses-the-book-recovery-revival-part-2

Episodes of the "Christian Recovery Radio with Dick B." show are archived at:

www.ChristianRecoveryRadio.com

Introduction

This is the second in a series of brief presentations in separate chunks of the material on the origins of A.A. in the Bible, the various elements of "old-school A.A.," and how the principles and practices of the Akron Group Number One "Christian fellowship" can be applied in today's recovery programs and in A.A. itself to enhance and make more useful the historical tools that were used when A.A. was put on the map with its astonishing successes.

Last evening, the first in the series was launched. The series itself will be presented in three ways: (1) By this series of radio interviews covering one old-school A.A. development at a time. (2) In a book by Dick B. and Ken B. titled Recovery Revival: Early A.A.'s First Century Christianity in Recovery Today. and (3) For the benefit of sponsors, trainers, leaders, and speakers--many of whom will be attending "The First International Alcoholics Anonymous History Conference" in Portland, Maine, on September 6-7, 2013.

Our first and previous program introduced the facts about "old-school A.A.," its names, its nature, accounts of its techniques, and how it is supported by Conference-approved literature today .

This program will deal with the explicit roots and remarks of the early AAs as to how they were using the Bible for their recoveries and what portions of the Bible were emphasized. In our new book, each paragraph is accompanied by a footnote. Each footnote will enable the reader and trainer to quote from the source; to authenticate the quote; and to research the subject of the paragraph, as well as identify it for trainees, classes, sponsors, and newcomers.

Synopsis

The First Step in Recovery Revival Is to the Bible

Dr. Bob said: “I had refreshed my memory of the Good Book, and I had had excellent training in that as a youngster.”^{^[1]}

Dr. Bob read the Bible from cover to cover three times and could quote from its passages verbatim.^{^[2]}

“Dr. Bob was always positive about his faith. Clarence [his sponsee Clarence H. S.] said, If someone asked him a question about the program, his usual response was: ‘What does it say in the Good Book.’”^{^[3]}

Bill W. had read the Bible with his grandfather Griffith and attended church and Sunday school at East Dorset Congregational Church, East Dorset, Vermont.^{^[4]}

Bill W. had taken a required four-year Bible study course at Burr and Burton Seminary where he attended high school. He also there attended daily chapel where Scriptures were read, sermons were delivered, prayers were given, and hymns were sung.^{^[5]}

Dr. Bob said of AA Number 3, Bill D.: “Now I knew that this Bill was a Sunday-school superintendent, and I thought that he probably forgot more about the Good Book every night than I ever knew.”^{^[6]}

Earl T. said: “I remember most distinctly the first meeting that I attended—Bill D. sat with the Holy Bible in his lap. . . . Bill read excerpts from the Bible.”^{^[7]}

To T. Henry Williams (in whose Akron home Wednesday meetings were held) Bill said: “I learned a great deal from you people. I hadn’t looked in the Bible up to this time, at all. You see, I had the experience [the blazing extraordinary white light experience in his hospital room at Towns Hospital] first and then this rushing around to help drunks and nothing happened.”^{^[8]}

Henrietta Seiberling often taught AAs at their early meetings; and her daughter Dorothy Seiberling wrote Dick B: “Mother did read Corinthians a great deal, but she read a lot, just picking up the Bible wherever it opened & going on from there. . . Of course, she believed in God & Christ, & and looked to the Bible for her guidance.”^{^[9]}

Bill W.’s wife, Lois, wrote in a small notebook at Stepping Stones: “Sat. A.M. Chas Haines—Bible. . . Home Quiet Time,” p. 7.

Dr. Bob’s wife, Anne, taught from her journal, stating: “Of course the Bible ought to be the main Source Book of all. No day ought to pass without reading it.”^{^[10]}

The Rockefeller people dispatched Frank Amos to Akron to investigate the Christian Fellowship there. Amos summarized the program and in Item 4, he wrote: “He must have devotions every morning—a quiet time’ of prayer and some reading from the Bible and other religious literature.^{^[11]}

Rev. Samuel Shoemaker was credited by Bill W. as the major source of A.A.’s 12 Steps. And Shoemaker’s assistant minister W. Irving Harris wrote: “The Scriptures formed the basis of Sam Shoemaker’s preaching. He was a “Bible Christian.”^{^[12]}

Dr. Frank Buchman was the founder and leader of “A First Century Christian Fellowship”—the Oxford Group--with which both Bill W. and Dr. Bob had been associated. Buchman’s biographer wrote: “Buchman was. . . “soaked in the Bible” and made certain it formed the basis of the training given in Oxford.”^{^[13]}

Dr. Bob pointed out in his last major speech: “In early A.A. days. . . when we started in on Bill D., our stories didn’t amount to anything to speak of. When we started in on Bill D., we had no Twelve Steps, either; we had no Traditions.

But we were convinced that the answer to our problems was in the Good Book. To some of us older ones, the parts that we found absolutely essential were the Sermon on the Mount, the thirteenth chapter of First Corinthians, and the Book of James. We used to have daily meetings at a friend’s house.^{^[14]}

Dr. Bob also wrote: “It wasn’t until 1938 that the teachings and efforts and studies that had been going on were crystallized in the form of the Twelve Steps. I didn’t write the Twelve Steps. I had nothing to do with the writing of them. . . . We already had the basic ideas, though not in terse and tangible form. We got them, as I said, as a result of our study of the Good Book.^{^[15]}

‘Ere long, Bill W. secured a vote of approval for his new idea of publishing the “Big Book.” Bill wrote the basic manuscript; and, when two visitors came to see him, Bill said: “I was greatly pleased with what I had written, and I read them the new version of the program, now the ‘Twelve Steps.” But a great deal of debate arose over their contention that “You’ve got too much God in these steps.” On the other side, Fitz M., the Episcopal minister’s son, pushed the position that “the book ought to be Christian in the doctrinal sense of the word and that it should say so. He was in favor of using Biblical terms and expressions to make that clear.” But Bill W.’s partner, Henry P.

had “come to believe in some sort of ‘universal power.’” Henry P. wanted “a psychological book which would lure the alcoholic in. Once in, the prospect could take God or leave Him alone as he wished.^{^[16]}

In the original draft, however, Bill “had refused to budge on these steps.” As Bill put it, “I would not change a word of the original draft, in which, you will remember, I had consistently used the word “God,” and in one place the expression “on our knees” was used.” Henry P. was affronted; and he argued Bill into changing the “God” language entirely in the Steps. This, said Bill, final concession to those of little or no faith . . . had widened our gateway so that all who suffer might pass through, regardless of their belief or lack of belief.”^{^[17]}

But that was far from the end of the Bible in Alcoholics Anonymous. In the very first edition published in 1939, the Big Book used a seemingly endless number of biblical descriptions of God (Creator, God, Maker, Father, Heavenly Father). It actually quoted the Bible using such phrases as “Thy will be done,” “Faith without works is dead,” and “love thy neighbor as thyself.”^{^[18]} Moreover, the personal stories of the pioneers

talked a great deal about God, Jesus Christ, and the Bible.^{^[19]} And subsequent “Conference-approved” A.A. literature contained extensive information about how the Bible was stressed, how it was read at meetings, and how it was “required” to be read by the newcomer. The official biography of Bill W. contained material on Bill’s studying the Bible with Bob and Anne in their home in Akron.^{^[20]} The two men favored “Quiet Time” and Christian literature containing biblical ideas and verses.^{^[21]}

For the reader of this chapter, we recommend that pursuing the biblical roots of A.A. should begin with the book, Dick B., The Good Book and The Big Book: A.A.’s Roots in the Bible.

[1] The Co-Founders of Alcoholics Anonymous, 11-12

[2] DR, BOB and the Good Oldtimers, 310

[3] DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers, 144

[4] Dick B. and Ken B., Bill W. and Dr. Bob: the Green Mountain Men of Vermont: The Roots of Early A.A.’s Original Program, Chapter 2

[5] Dick B. and Ken B., Bill W. and Dr. Bob: the Green Mountain Men of Vermont:, Chapters 2 and 3

[6] The Co-Founders, 12

[7] The Akron Genesis of Alcoholics Anonymous, 190

[8] The Akron Genesis, 64

[9] The Akron Genesis, 95

[10] The Akron Genesis, 111

[11] DR. BOB and The Good Oldtimers, 220, 131, 227-28

[12] The Akron Genesis, 211

[13] The Akron Genesis, 211

[14] The Co-Founders, 13

[15] The Co-Founders, 14

[16] Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, 161-64

[17] Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, 166-67

[18] Alcoholics Anonymous “THE BIG BOOK”: The Original 1939 Edition, Bill W. With a New Introduction by Dick B. (Mineola, NY: Dover Publications, Inc., 2011.

[19] Dick B. and Ken B., Pioneer Stories in Alcoholics Anonymous: God’s Role in Recovery Confirmed

[20] “PASS IT ON,” 147.

[21] DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers, 130-31, 178, 227-28.

Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Dick B., AA Author and Historian, Recommends to Those Seeking God's Help and Victorious Recovery

We Recommend to Those

Seeking God’s Help and Long-Term Recovery Victory

By Dick B.

(1) Learning how—in present-day recovery programs like Alcoholics Anonymous, treatment centers, counseling and therapy, and Christian Recovery fellowships—to bring the best of more than 75 years of spiritual and religious work with alcoholics and drug addicts to those still suffering. (2) Learning that “old school A.A.” had unique successes because of its simple “Christian fellowship” program that was founded in Akron, Ohio, in 1935, and relied primarily on God. (3) Learning that—despite modern recovery’s drifts toward secularism, diverse beliefs, and “evidence-based” ideas—the present Alcoholics Anonymous General Service Conference-approved literature still stands on a solid foundation of reliance on the Creator for healing and a transformed mind that draws on the Bible for fundamental basics, and (4) Learning that—despite volumes of literature, diversity of opinion, and idolatrous thinking that spurns God’s help as a factor in the recovery and cure of alcoholism—the principles and practices of early A.A. can be applied in today’s recovery arena to bring to those who want “Divine Aid”--the power, love, healing, guidance, salvation, and forgiveness of God to suffering people who want God’s help and are willing to go to any lengths to get it. Then help others. Just as they did before A.A. was founded and certainly in Akron A.A., starting in 1935.

A Six-Item Package Containing the Following Literature:

· Alcoholics Anonymous: “THE BIG BOOK”: The Original 1939 Edition, With a New Introduction by Dick B. (Mineola, NY: Dover Publications, Inc., 2011) http://mcaf.ee/j4hq5

· The Co-Founders of Alcoholics Anonymous: Biographical Sketches: Their Last Major Talks [New York, NY: Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc., 1972, 1975 (Pamphlet P-53)]. This A.A. General Service Conference-approved pamphlet is available through from A.A. Central, Intergroup, and District Office; from the A.A. GSO in New York; and online: http://www.aa.org/pdf/products/p-53_theCo-FoundersofAA.pdf. [We recommend that you acquire a large quantity of the physical pamphlet; highlight key sections—particularly in Dr. Bob’s last major talk (e.g., on pages 13-14)--; include your contact information (e.g., a phone number, an email address, and/or a Web site URL address); and give the pamphlets to everyone who attends your meetings, make sure a good supply of the pamphlets is always available on the literature table at A.A. meetings you attend, and give them away to alcoholics and others impacted by alcoholism.

· Dick B., The Good Book and the Big Book: A.A.’s Roots in the Bible: www.dickb.com/goodbook.shtml.

· Dick B., The James Club and the Original A.A. Program’s Absolute Essentials: www.dickb.com/JamesClub.shtml.

· Dick B. and Ken B., Stick with the Winners! How to Conduct More Effective 12-Step Recovery Meetings Using Conference-Approved Literature: A Dick B. Guide for Christian Leaders and Workers in the Recovery Arena: http://mcaf.ee/s50mq.

· Dick B. and Ken B., Pioneer Stories in Alcoholics Anonymous: God’s Role in Recovery Confirmed!: http://mcaf.ee/gj7iw.

What Dick B. and Ken B. Are Available to Do:

· Train the trainers by providing the foregoing resources; and by meeting and speaking with those trainers, and helping them establish meetings to effectuate application in today’s recovery arena of the successful principles and practices of “old-school” A.A.’s “First Century Christianity” recovery program.

· Appear at conferences; make information available on the Internet; and write introductions for those who already conduct Christian recovery programs and want a “First Century Christianity” element—as seen in early A.A.—in those efforts.

· Consult with Christian leaders and workers in the recovery arena who want to start A.A. directory-listed groups, or Christian Recovery fellowships, programs, groups, or resource centers incorporating the “old-school” A.A. values and successes.

· Meet in person with any or all of the foregoing, either at one of our locations in Maui, Hawaii, or elsewhere during events where travel, meals, and lodging expenses are covered.

The Comprehensive Historical Guide for Your Program Today

Dick B. and Ken B. have been engaged in this research and providing content for 24 years. They have published 46 titles and over 1,500 articles filling in the details. They plan to make these resources available “one bite at a time” in meetings, talks, radio presentations, and film presentations; on blogs, audios, and forums; and via social media. This squib idea rests on the fact that there is a large amount of effective recovery research and resources that simply cannot be offered or absorbed in one book, one conference, one meeting, or one group. Utility and comprehension can be achieved “one day at a time” as viewers, listeners, and readers learn “one step at a time.” This approach is far different and hopefully much more promising and fruitful than the talks of circuit speakers who--though immensely popular--simply tell the same old same old “drunkalogs” but don’t necessarily enlighten meetings about God, the Bible, the Steps, or the Big Book.

For more information, contact Dick B., PO Box 837, Kihei, Maui, Hawaii 96753-0837; 1-808-874-4876; DickB@DickB.com; www.DickB.com.

Gloria Deo

Saturday, June 15, 2013

Author Dick B.'s Radio Show Calls for Volunteers to Help Manage the AA History Outreach Plans

Dick B. asks for volunteers for major Christian Recovery outreach projects on the June 14, 2013, episode of the "Christian Recovery Radio with Dick B." show here:

http://mcaf.ee/rn8w3

or here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/christian-recovery-radio-with-dickb/2013/06/15/dick-b-calls-for-volunteers-in-major-projects

Episodes of the "Christian Recovery Radio with Dick B." show are archived at:

www.ChristianRecoveryRadio.com

_______________________________________________________________________

Tonight's show is all about asking you, as AAs, Christians, and recovery leaders and servants, to furnish volunteer efforts to us in a major Christian Recovery Outreach effort just ahead. This volunteer help can be in your home or workplace, or in your fellowship or area. The appeal is not a fundraiser. It's a request for hands-on service consistent with your own time schedule, obligations, other demands, and degree of proficiency. This call is for help you choose to donate in connection with your proficiency with computers, graphics, Internet, Web sites, study, research, writing, intern inclinations, communication skills, skills in marketing and advertising, Christian recovery and healing, alcoholism and addiction, TV, radio, web design, personal contacts, and experience with recovery from addiction with God's help, the Bible, prayer, Christian literature, and spiritual growth. We have had and haven't employed staff or workers in the past. But the new plans are for revising our Web sites, blogs, films, audios, power points, graphics, YouTube, book reviews, commentaries, recruitment of new participants in Christian Recovery--whether as AAs, NAs, sponsors, speakers, physicians, psychologists, counselors, interventionists, sober living, after care. treatment, Christian recovery leadership, Christian recovery pastoring, ministries, articles, reviews, personal contacts, manuscript preparation, publishing, filming, recording, use of social media, emailing, contacting by phone or in person, and asking appropriate questions of our many communicants who use the phone, email, forums, comments, and the like. We'll briefly tell here what we do, have done, would like to do, and would like to have as volunteers. And about our aim to train others in old-school A.A., the Bible and A.A., A.A. history, prayer, and A.A. conference-approved literature. Write Dick at DickB@DickB.com.

Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Free expression and freedom in Norco California AA James Clubs. A triumph over rigidity

I remember when we first started The James Club in Norco CA. We were harassed by central office and inter group .Meetings in the area changed their format as to not allow us to announce our meeting. We kept on and inter group reps would come to our meetings, they new we were breaking an AA tradition because we had a Bible on the table.It took a while for them and after a few special inter group meetings it was finally settled on at AA central office that we were violating the tradition which states no outside issues(The Bible is an outside issue I guess). I wish I could tell you some great story but truth is we told them to "shut up and go away" and they did we are still in the directory we still use a Bible at our meeting. The only thing that changed is we got so big we split into three groups and many members only go to James Club Meetings which is unfortunate I think it's important to be involved in all aspects of AA ;gives us a firm grounding, AA saved my life(I took a 30 year chip last week 5/23/83) It's where I met Jesus Christ. Been almost ten years sense we started the James Club and you know what I miss all the controversy, maybe I need to start something it's to quiet . John Sorrells James Club Norco

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:22 PM, "Dick B." <dickb@dickb.com> wrote:

Answering an email from Marcus about a tyrannical intergroup office. There is a solution!

Thank you, Marcus.

We have helped people all over the United States and Canada with problems like yours. There are plenty of answers. But I hope you will take the time to purchase our recent book, "Stick with the Winners!" which lays out a pattern you can follow and which cannot be repudiated by the A.A. cops. I urge you to get it, in fact to get several copies, read them, and then give me a ring as to procedure.

Recently, one group in Tucson followed to the letter and succeeded. Another huge group in Toronto worked with us and our recommended books and just triumphed. Two different groups in Orange County stood their ground and are still helping drunks.

You can buy Stick with the Winners from my son Ken at 808 276 4945, or from Amazon.com. See http://mcaf.ee/s50mq for a description.

Your strongest tools are these if you learn how to use them and stand up to be counted. The "informed group conscience" is the first point. The second is "A loving God as He may express Himself" in that informed group conscience—a “Tradition” far more ignored than honored, andan almost forgotten key. Autonomy in that backdrop is the guide.. Taking democratically conducted group conscience votes after prayer, writing down the motion and the results, having your group secretary sign the minutes. Having the written, signed minutes at every meeting. And telling any intruders to read the minutes and see you after your meetings instead of disrupting sobriety in them. Follow the other points.

Remember ALL leaders are but trusted servants. They do not govern. Arrogance, rigidity, citing of non-existent rules and regulations go with the territory of an unruly alcoholic meeting or fellowship. Ego rules. God is ignored. So is autonomous voting. And if you follow the rules in our book, you can tell your "suits" from above, your GSR, your DCM, your delegate, your central office manager, your intergroup czars, your district, your "managers," and any other pretentious "governor" to go whistle.

Thank you so much for writing and asking. There is no such thing as conference "dis-approved" literature. There is no "index of forbidden books." in the A.A. lexicon. Nor is there credence given to insolent, erroneous pronouncements. There are no censors or rulers or kings in A.A. except egomania gone wild among people that ought to be turning their attention to reliance on God and helping the alcoholic who still suffers.

"Love and tolerance" is our stated code. "Love and service" is the essence of the Steps. The "rule of law" doesn't belong or exist within 100 miles of any A.A. group. Especially when intrusive “authorities” try to make up the law and enforce it against our brothers and sisters in the fellowship.

The more dictatorial pronouncements our members listen to and worry about, the more the tyrants think they are acting with authority and ruling, and replace fighting, fighting, fighting with obstructive behavior.

God bless,

Richard . . . , J.D., CDAAC

Author and A.A. historian, retired attorney, Bible student (pen name “Dick B.”)

46 published titles & over 1,450 articles on A.A. history and the Christian Recovery Movement; active recovered AA member with over 27 years of continuous sobriety

Exec. Dir., International Christian Recovery Coalition

Christian Recovery Resource Centers - Worldwide

Christian Recovery Radio

www.DickB.com

DickB@DickB.com

(808) 874-4876

PO Box 837, Kihei, HI 96753-0837

Ps 118:17 (NJB):

I shall not die, I shall live to recount the great deeds of Yahweh.

Facebook: DickBmauihistorian

Twitter

Blog

YouTube

-----Original Message-----

From: Marcus, , , , [last name deleted]

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 4:04 PM

To: dickb@dickb.com

Subject: Intergroup tellng us we are not allowed

Hey Dick

Marcus. . . . here in Santa Rosa ca. Our intergroup made false accusations to the groups telling the uniformed conscience that our group is using non aa approved literature ( Dallas PPG study guides) and that we were affiliated with the primary purpose mtg in dallas( because we are listed on there site as a Big Book Study mtg in CA). That we have made no contributions to IG and that we are violating the traditions. I have brought in countless writings from GSO .aa comes of age, Dr Bob and old timers language of the heart etc and they still go after us about buying the study guides and that we give $$ for them. Any Ideas and help would be great.

Aloha

Marcus. . . .

Alcoholics Anonymous History